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12 hours ago.
by harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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mythravere

Opinionated people tend to give out their opinions.

Hey! Who woulda thought?

Posted 12 days ago.

RANDOM21

Amazing that the N&S still does not allow comments even though you must pay to read the articles. In the meanwhile the forum has been reduced to a single thread with a love fest of three or four lost souls that can't see what's happening before their very eyes. 127 pages of posts on a subject that no one can do anything about except remove themselves from the world and stop emitting the dreaded CO2. So long, Tired, you fought the good fight. Adieu.

Posted 12 days ago.

Kendall78

"Oh and be sure to write declarative self serving texts about how you won.."

How cute, Tired makes it out like we could win something. How could we win something when you haven't even arrived to compete in this adult game called debate. I guess one could say we won by forfeit since you never have yet defended your position in any reasonable manner.

Posted 13 days ago.

harryanderson

Adios until next time.

Posted 13 days ago.

Tiredofit

Oh and be sure to write declarative self serving texts about how you won and I am afraid of your genius or some such nonsense, truth is, like any toy, after while you get bored with it.

Posted 13 days ago.

Tiredofit

SHEMP, has arrived now you have a quorum. You guys have been fun, but without me you would have much of a chance to spout off about your religion, I think I will let this topic go for a while, have fun Ill stop back to this topic one day.

Posted 13 days ago.

harryanderson

Who really believes John Beale, who defrauded the government for years by posing as a CIA agent? Not me.

But even if we do believe him, we should check out the whole story instead of cherry picking like Tired.

Posted 13 days ago.

harryanderson

Tiredofit has again attempted to deceive us. He tries to link John Beale's testimony as "a smoking gun" that "laid bare the administration's end goal."

But Tired would rather you didn't hear the whole story.

According to a Fox News article on Jan. 22 titled "Ex-WPA official told lawmakers of project to 'modify the DNA of capitalism,'"

Beale also "claimed the project began under the George W Bush administration" and "the project was eventually 'scrapped.'" So Bush started it and Obama ended it, according to Fox.

Beware of deceptive reporting.

Posted 13 days ago.

Kendall78

"The truth is that CO2 is a beneficial trace gas"

Not one person has questioned the benefits of CO2 in the natural environment. The question is when it's increased through unnatural sources.

"that the idea of it playing any significant role in determining our climate is simply silly."

Why? You have evidence that the mass increase has been actually beneficial instead of bad?

"CO2 comprises less than half of 0.1% of our atmosphere, and only 4% of it comes from human activity."

I love it when you copy/paste Tired, the writing is always better than your normal off the cuff style. If anyone is interested, you can read the entire thing here: klimabedrag.dk/article/full/the-global-warming-hoax-how-soon-we-forget

Posted 13 days ago.

Tiredofit

The truth is that CO2 is a beneficial trace gas that exists in such small quantities in our atmosphere, that the idea of it playing any significant role in determining our climate is simply silly. CO2 comprises less than half of 0.1% of our atmosphere, and only 4% of it comes from human activity. That's 16ppm, or 1 part in every 62,500 parts of our atmosphere. CO2 is plant food, and a key component in all life on earth. Plants need CO2 to grow and produce oxygen.

Posted 13 days ago.

moderation

Melted ice and snow alters ocean temperatures by displacing warmer water.

Posted 13 days ago.

Kendall78

I would also suggest when you research that you don't trust it if the writing is by author "cgfi".

It would be more responsible to at least cite actual scientists that write articles than opinion pieces.

Posted 13 days ago.

Kendall78

You are more than welcome to cite your information and also to give full information. Did you info say why there was a cooling at that time you referenced?

Most momentas of cooling was surface temps mostly and due to major events like the volcanic eruptions in the Pacific.

Posted 13 days ago.

Kendall78

Using ARGO;

"A new analysis of long-term ocean warming trends has discovered that deep ocean waters below 700 meters (2,300 feet) have heated up unexpectedly since the year 2000. The research was published on May 10, 2013 in the journal." (Geophysical Research Letters)

"The ocean plays a critical role in absorbing extra atmospheric heat caused by increasing greenhouse gas emissions. Scientists estimate that the ocean has absorbed approximately 90% of the total heat that has been added to the climate system over the past 50 years. Heat that is not absorbed by the ocean contributes to melting ice and warming land and air temperatures." (earthsky.o r g)

Posted 13 days ago.

Tiredofit

The world's oceans cooled suddenly between 2003 and 2005, losing more than 20 percent of the global-warming heat they'd absorbed over the previous 50 years. That's a vast amount of heat, since the oceans hold 1,000 times as heat as the atmosphere. The ocean-cooling researchers say the heat was likely vented into space, since it hasn't been found stored anywhere on Earth.

Posted 13 days ago.

Kendall78

As for ARGO, Oceanographer Dean Roemmich has used the info from ARGO and other past measurements to confirm that the oceans have been getting warming in the last century.

Posted 13 days ago.

Kendall78

"Phil Klotzbach, who heads the CSU team, said the lower forecast.."

Soooo, you prop up forcasts when they serve you but will condemn forcasting when they are proven incorrect right?

Would it surprise you that Dr. Klotzbach admitted that the forcasts for the 2013 hurricane season "was probably our worst forecast in 30 years of doing it".

So Tired, why do you trust this guy when he has admitted to being so wrong before? Is it because he is saying what you want to hear? Shame on you.

Posted 13 days ago.

Kendall78

Glad your copy/pasting skills are up to junior high standards.

"Phil Klotzbach, who heads the CSU team"

Do you even know what CSU is? As I stated before, you are a hypocrite Tired. You will condemn one group because of their connections to the govt but ignore it when it suits you.

"said the lower forecast was based on cooler waters in the tropical Atlantic"

You do realize that the tropical Atlantic isn't even the whole Atlantic Ocean right? What does this have to do with the all the Earth's Oceans being warmer than average?

I am quite certain he is fully aware that the oceans as a whole are warming. It's about time you become aware of it yourself dear boy.

Posted 13 days ago.

Kendall78

"The 2014 Atlantic hurricane season is expected to be quieter than normal"

And this is evidence of what Tired? You are not trying to say this is evidence of something not happening are you?

Posted 13 days ago.

Tiredofit

Four out of five ARGO data studies now show Ocean Heat Content declining

Posted 13 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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