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3 days ago.
by mythravere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Kendall78

"but the testimony of authorities is legitimate evidence."

I agree except in general, Tired and Ithink rarely give good citation to the science the so called authority talks about. Merely saying an authority figure disagrees seems to count in their book.

It would be like Steven Hawking saying a black hole is in fact an invisible dragon gobbling up space and everyone says, "Well Hawking is saying it and therefor it must be true."

Posted 102 days ago.

harryanderson

Of course, Tiredofit is inconsistent when he cites a scientist, since he's said it's "not A scientific discussion."

Posted 102 days ago.

harryanderson

I meant evaluating his credibility (as well as his testimony).

Posted 102 days ago.

harryanderson

I don't know what you mean by "appeal to authority," but the testimony of authorities is legitimate evidence.

There are 3 types of evidence--statistics, examples, and testimony.

Tiredofit is ok in citing a scientist. And we're are ok in evaluating his testimony and citing the 97% of climate scientists who disagree with him.

Posted 102 days ago.

Kendall78

"Read the list of giant blunder predictions."

What does that prove? Only that predicitions can be wrong. It does NOTHING to prove that Climate Change isn't being effected by man.

"Foolish men believe false gods."

I believe in no false gods. Perhaps you could explain where you got such a notion.

Posted 102 days ago.

Kendall and myth are like donkeys braying in the wind. Hot is caused by man and cold is caused by man. Foolish men believe false gods.

Read the list of giant blunder predictions.

Roosters crowing about every little change in the earth being caused by insignificant man, is getting old to a lot of thinking people.

Posted 102 days ago.

Kendall78

"Trouble is we can't predict the weather ....climate...."

No, we can't. But then again, most people don't try to. Responsible scientists try to make predictions based on the information available. Common sense (that sadly might not be that common) tells us that these are not full proof predictions.

"in the future due to unexpected natural occurences."

There are natural occurences that effect climate change and no one has denied that. Globale warming/climate change proponents isn't the all or nothing crowd. That is the deniers.

The proponents for climate change knows climate doesn't exist in a static bubble. Volcanoes, solar flares and plate tectonics can effect overall climate. But what makes them different than the deniers is that they content that the dominant species on the planet contributes to that climate change through its activities.

Posted 102 days ago.

Kendall78

"Why do you keep saying" appeal to authority"?"

Because when you try to prove a point by simply saying Dr. so-and-so said it..that is an appeal to authority. You think that since you have some doctor that supports your position, it counts as evidence when it doesn't.

"You don't have one piece of information that an "authority" spoonfed you and says is true."

I read and take in the information and apply to the situation. I see if the argument is logical and applies to the evidence at hand. I also offer credible citation for that info. Mostly it would appear that you do not.

Posted 102 days ago.

This weather today reminds me of how much I like warm weather. Where is it? This climate has got to change.

Trouble is we can't predict the weather ....climate.... in the future due to unexpected natural occurences. It's like spitting in the ocean to try to cause a flood. Wasted, and silly illusions of self importance.

Posted 102 days ago.

Tiredofit

Is there one single weather phenomenon that is NOT related to climate change?

Posted 102 days ago.

mythravere

Whats causing glaciers to recede all over the world?

What natural cause is behind that?

Posted 102 days ago.

mythravere

What natural causes are causing global warming. Provide the evidence that supports your case.

If you are right you should be able to provide that easily.

I bet you won't.

Posted 102 days ago.

mythravere

We've laid it out more times than I can count.

If you are honest (which I know you're not) you would point out where its all wrong.

It doesn't matter what I say or anyone else says.

You deny it.

And you refuse to acknowledge anything we say.

Posted 102 days ago.

Tiredofit

Poor uneducated trailer dwelling climatologist!!!!!!!!!!! Yep you are a real one alright.

Posted 102 days ago.

mythravere

Say why is that scientist you referenced more believable than the other scientists who say global warming is caused by man.

What is it about him that makes you believe what he says?

Could it be because he is in agreement with the position you hold?

Is that why you ignored the truth about the background of that guy?

Posted 102 days ago.

Tiredofit

Living in a trailer doesnt make you more of anything, geez. It's not up to me to prove a negative, can you prove it's true?

Posted 102 days ago.

h ttp://w ww.foxnews.c om/scitech/2010/12/30/botched-environmental-forecasts/

" worried about global warming? Decades ago, what did prominent scientists think the environment would be like in 2010? FoxNews.c om has compiled eight of the most egregiously mistaken predictions."

This article is not about Fox News, it is about facts. False science worshiping Clowns still are followiing the silly clowns.

Posted 102 days ago.

mythravere

Actually tiredofit Kendall is asking you as I am to look at the science.

You keep either saying man isn't the cause(without providing proof that natural causes are the culprit) or you keep laying something said by someone else on the table as your proof. You are appealing to authority.

Posted 102 days ago.

mythravere

"Enjoy your global warming tonight Kendall, may your pipes freeze on your trailer."

Aaah see Tiredofit complains about getting insulted then he flings out this comment.

Making it sound like living in a trailer is something to be looked down upon.

Like admitting that you have lived or lived in a trailer is something to be ashamed of.

I'll have you know that if you haven't lived in a trailer in West Virginia then you are not a true West Virginian.

Since I have lived in a trailer for a large chunk of my life I guess I am more of a true West Virginian than tiredofit if he hasn't?

Two can play that petty little game.

Posted 102 days ago.

Tiredofit

Mann made climate change, that's more appropriate.

Posted 102 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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