There is no movement in the United States to kill people in the name of second amendment rights but there is a movement that has murdered 1,200,000 children in the name of women's rights

Myth feel free to change the subject any time you are losing the debate. We were talking about WMD claims and the Iraq war. Now you shift the debate when I clearly demonstrated you were wrong

You seem to be better at making hollow threats than trying to debate the adults in the room.

Who armed and trained the mujahideen back in the 80s in response to the Soviet actions in Afghanistan? That resulted in the blowback that was 9-11-01?

You missed the point again Nancy. Shouldn't come as a suprise.

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton. - (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998

Im sorry NANCY but you are as misguided as ever. Who was president in 1998???? Gee you story has a lot of holes in it. Seems the liar and fraud is YOU.

Was it a deliberate lie to start a war? I don't know. However when you seek to narrow your blame to one wing of the spectrum you do lose credibility.

Myth cogress did not get the Intel from George Bush. Rather these very congress persons sat on committees that gathered information. The left likes to spread the bogus notion that somehow Bush fooled the congress which just does mot stand up to close scrutiny, but liars don't let fact stand in the way of a good story.

Just for the sake of clarity Tinfoilhat or should I say R1KRA8. I am not opposed to your second amendment rights.

I fully believe in them. But I feel that our second amendment rights could do with some check and balances to insure that only the right type can get a hold of certain weapons.

But I will say this. More often than not those who champion second amendment rights have defended those rights in a manner that actually makes the people against it say "hey this is why they shouldn't have guns".

In defending those rights a calm demeanor has to be kept. People like Ted Nugent are going about it wrong.

Thats a topic that everyone should heed closely. Namely our digital footprint. But anyhoo.

Congress did authorize the war. But that authorization came from being informed with false information. Additionally the administration at the time had full control of the momentum going into any possible action after 9-11.

The war in Iraq was something they wanted. And I dont feel one bit it was for the reasons mentioned. I honestly feel it was a strategic play on oil.

Well let me rephrase, I am pretty sure that I know, but I really dont give two craps about anyones personal info. THe only reason I bring it up, is that you have to be very careful because there are some real NUTS out there.

Well Myth I know your name and what city you live in. You shouldnt use this handle everywhere as it does show up and personal information that you might not want out is easily obtainable. Just a tip from your Uncle Tired. I have no plans to reveal anything about you but I am just saying, you have put that stuff out there for anyone that knows how to find it.

Well tinfoil I see you want to make this personal. Of course your identity is safe with me. I'm assuming you or one of your other handles knows me. But rest assured I won't stoop so low as to compromise someone's identity if they don't want it revealed.

But then again maybe you work for the paper and are drawing the wrong conclusions to who's identity you think you have.

But maybe just maybe you are making a veiled threat of revealing who I might be by posting the way you did.

It's a pretty underhanded way of doing things. But alas I ain't going nowhere.

Congress gave the authority to go to war Myth as much as you wish to blame the right only. I gave you more credit for being intellectually honest than perhaps I should have.

The other thing I find interesting about you mythravere, is that Arch Coal and The West Virginia Oil Marketers and Grocers Association were contributors to your campaign. I'll bet Arch Coal would be especially mystified by your "anonymous" postings on the use of coal.

I guess it is probably a good thing for all of us that, as you have said before, you have never voted. However, without ever having voted how did you get elected to the W. Va. House of Delegates, District 12? And if you are so opposed to my second ammendment rights, why did you vote for House Bill 2760? As of now, I consider all your posts to be trolling, and hold no weight. I just wish it wouldn't be so easy for you to just create a new username and continue more of the same.

Thats why when the right utters anything about saving lives I just laugh.

The right supports an entity that is by and large one of the biggest death dealers on this planet.

Take care of that and then I'll take your words of saving lives seriously.

This would also be a good place to point out the Military Industrial Complex and the harm it is doing to this nation.

It all comes down to how their business is conducted. The MIC being populated by companies who need war to survive buy the politicians who make the decisions to go to war.

No wonder PNAC stated that America needed a Pearl Harbor like attack to justify this nation rebuild its defenses. PNAC had heavy ties to the defense industry by the way.

Then O'l Bushy and his warhawks come along by dang we get a Pearl Harbor like attack on our soil.

Rather convenient dont you think?

Nah our own folks wouldn't allow an attack to take place on our soil for political ends!

And money!

"My resolve to keep my second ammendment rights is stronger than your will to take it...and I have the gun."

The simple fact is you can bellow till you lungs explode about abortion.

Until you show a total respect for life whether it be a baby or a military aged male etc. Until you get right with that then you will called out on your hypocrisy.

You say you care you might. But once their old enough to go die in war there are quite a few on the right who in a haze of war glorification are more than willing to send people to their deaths for lies and dead dinosaurs in the ground.

Who was the leader when the War in Iraq was decided on as a course of action?

Given what policies were put forth by PNAC. The Iraq war was in on the books for quite some time by the NeoCons.