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PAC Limits

Allowing free speech in W.Va.

August 21, 2013

A West Virginia law limiting free speech in politics should have been stricken from the books in 2010, after a U.S. Supreme Court ruling made it clear the statute was unconstitutiona....

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AaronS

Aug-22-13 7:48 PM

I doubt very seriously that anyone thought you were referring to Chief Justice Marshall's 1819 court decision because to be perfectly honest, I don't believe you were. I've seen too many arguments regarding Citizens United and your comments was of that mold.

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Suttle

Aug-22-13 5:00 PM

AaronS I fail to understand where I was allegedly dishonest regarding the perverse interpretation of the U.S. Constitution regarding corporate personhood. The court was wrong in 1819 and for the welfare of our country and those who live in it, someday the court may erase this black mark on the judiciary and our Constitution. The greatest threat to our country and to our republic is not from terrorist, but from Wall Street barons and their multinational corporations.

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AaronS

Aug-21-13 2:54 PM

"Couple this gross perverse interpretation of our Constitution that gives corporations the status of personhood, we now have a nation that is owned by corporate multinational companies, ruled by corporate multinational companies and controlled by multinational companies."

The interpretation you refer to was authored by Chief Justice John Marshall, the case was Dartmouth College v. Woodward and it was decided in 1819. This notion that this freedom is a 20th century right granted to large corporations of today is a misnomer propagated by those who want to silence those corporations. The truth is, corporate personhood has been around since the 19th century and is almost as old as the US itself and it has been affirmed by courts in the 19th, 20th and 21st century. It’s not going away now because a PAC spends the money of its contributors.

Whether or not you agree with the decisions, at least be honest about the origins.

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Suttle

Aug-21-13 2:27 PM

PACs are a blight on our democracy. Freedom of speech is now afforded to only those who can buy it at the highest price. Just look at the last Presidential election with each candidate spending in excess of a billion dollars. Freedom of speech now will only belong to the Patrician class. Couple this gross perverse interpretation of our Constitution that gives corporations the status of personhood, we now have a nation that is owned by corporate multinational companies, ruled by corporate multinational companies and controlled by multinational companies. The corporate multinationals owe no allegiance to anyone but to their multinational stock holders and hedge funds. A good example showing how the super rich can break the law with impunity, one only has to look at how the Wall Street barons stole billions of dollars resulting in few minions being prosecuted all the while the real evil doers go scot free sending their ill begotten loot to the Cayman Islands...tax free.

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Itsnottolate

Aug-21-13 1:10 PM

Political contributions come at a price and both parties are guilty of accepting "bribe" money. Until this is fixed, America will stay broken.

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neocurmudgeon74

Aug-21-13 10:34 AM

Denver, what makes you think Mike Myer wrote this editorial?

Btw I type "Denver" in lower case but my computer capitalizes it, I'm tired of overriding it.

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AaronS

Aug-21-13 9:47 AM

My first paragraph should have read "no consequence from the legal system.

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AaronS

Aug-21-13 9:46 AM

"I guess if we can repeal one, we can repeal the other. OK?"

No. The ACA was ruled constitutional as a tax, not a right. Any tax can be repealed, changed or modified thus in theory, ACA could be repealed with consequence from the legal system.

Corporate Personhood, the crux of Citizens United was ruled Constitutional in Dartmouth v. Woodward, an opinion opined by Chief Justice John Marshall and affirmed numerous times, most recently in Citizens United. The only thing that will overturn that fundamental right is a Supreme Court decision, which given recent cases, is not likely to happen.

Tenant should have known this and ask for an immediate decision by the Judicial Branch instead of implementing and enforcing the law.

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Fastbass

Aug-21-13 8:58 AM

I might add that a lot of PAC funds are funded by organizations that solicit new hires at a vulnerable stage and are reluctant to say NO!!.

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b4waswv

Aug-21-13 8:11 AM

It's the law of the land, yes, and it leads to corruption. Just as the ACA is the law of the land. I guess if we can repeal one, we can repeal the other. OK?

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AaronS

Aug-21-13 7:24 AM

Citizens United is the law of the land so why would WV legislature pass this law to begin with and why would Tennant even try to enforce it. What a waste of taxpayer dollars.

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denver

Aug-21-13 5:17 AM

On what planet does Mike Mayer live? Does he not read the papers? Does he not see how big money is causing great havoc on our "democratic" system? Isn't it clear that the loudest voices are those of the ones with money? And I wonder why this editorial piece didn't mention who the two contributors bringing the law suit were?

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