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Officials: Gate would remain at Wyndemere

Cost to bring roads up to spec about $123,000

July 19, 2013

PARKERSBURG — Officials say the 12th Street gate will remain if Wyndemere’s private roads become public streets....

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denver

Jul-19-13 7:49 PM

"worried40" is the development your parents live in, inside the city limits?

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worried40

Jul-19-13 7:41 PM

My parents live in a development like this. (not nearly as expensive) They have to pay to have their own road in front of their own property paved. This is a development anybody can drive through, and they still have to pay for their own paving. This is a street that the people who live there do not want you near their property, but they want you to pay to pave their street for them. I think Mayor Newell better be rethinking this idea..

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denver

Jul-19-13 4:37 PM

"That's a no-brainer"

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denver

Jul-19-13 4:30 PM

Well then what's all the negative comment about? If its a city street, then the City is responsible for it! That's a no brainier!

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thesafe1

Jul-19-13 4:05 PM

Did you read the article?

There is no gate at one of the entrances, it's a limited access community, not completely restricted.

Go take a drive through there tonight, you're allowed to, it is a city street.

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denver

Jul-19-13 3:37 PM

Does anybody know what the law is, in West Virginia about having a gated community inside the City Limits?

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AaronL

Jul-19-13 12:16 PM

Bottom line is "you get what you pay for", and if the streets in Mecca are crap now, what will they still be underneath the lipstick put on by the city? Throwing whom evers money at the problem isn't going to make it go away.

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denver

Jul-19-13 11:13 AM

Well said "WVKristy!" That's what I've been thinking too. There has to be more to this than what the paper is reporting!

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WVKristy

Jul-19-13 10:56 AM

speak.

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WVKristy

Jul-19-13 10:55 AM

You can disagree with me if you like but how many of you know about the Bond issue associated with installation of the streets? How many of you know how the city handled the traffic and gate situation when The Wyngate (Senior Living Facility) was built at the College Parkway end of the community? As I said, neither yesterday's article nor today's follow-up article told the whole story. Apparently they reserved all that valuable copy space to insert stupid Mayor quotes like, "it is a very nice subdivision up there, and the streets really need to be done" (which only incites public outrage) rather than insert any useful, relevant background info and invite people to form an opinion based on fact. Background info regarding the Bond issue, The Wyngate (Senior Living Facility) issue, and how the $34K figure was derived is something everyone needs to hear before rushing to judgment. I do believe folks should attend the city council meeting, but they should listen before they

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MisterT

Jul-19-13 10:48 AM

@nantucketman25...Wow!! Very well put!!! I remember a friend telling me about this stunt that those big shots pulled a while back. Acting like the local vigilante trying to protect their "turf"!!

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nantucketman25

Jul-19-13 10:27 AM

When the gate to the Wyndemere was shut a couple of the homeowners went down by the gate to tell people they needed to turn around and go back out to college parkway. They could have let them through and reminded them that the gate would be closed from now on, but they stood there with their pompous smiles and arrogance and petty smiles as they made an entire 5 O clock rush hour full of people turn around, waste gas and time, and go back out the other way. If that's the type of people these people are, then they should not only get NOTHING from a city of people they gave the middle finger to, but also be publicly spanked for acting like spoiled five year olds. If we pay for the road we should get to use the road to get to where we want to go. That's how it works everywhere else. The rules don't change just because their cheap stucco houses are bigger and higher than everyone else.

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WVKristy

Jul-19-13 10:09 AM

Neither article (yesterday or today) told the whole story of what's happening in this neighborhood. There is some background info that everyone should hear before forming an opinion on this matter. I recommend attending city council meeting, but I also recommend you come with an open mind and listen before you speak.

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Privatized

Jul-19-13 9:22 AM

I'd be willing to bet, the homeowners knew when they signed to buy the properties, they knew it was all private including the streets, with no expectation of the city ever helping out. In fact, I'm sure that was part of the attraction. Now they can see those roads aren't going to last through their lifetimes and they want to change the deal they made.

Leaving one gate closed makes it a dead end, doesn't it. So nobody can use it as a shortcut, only for joyrides around a loop and back out the way they came in.

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BakerKat

Jul-19-13 9:13 AM

All the little people might as well bend over right now. The fat cats need a road. My parents were in a homeowner's assoc. they all paid for their own road. They didn't go crying to the city, county whoever, they just did what most little people do - they PAID it theirselves.

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DontLetThisHappen

Jul-19-13 9:05 AM

Wingate will go back to court and have that gate removed and will have more of a legal argument once the road is dedicated and not private anymore.

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kwhite

Jul-19-13 9:01 AM

If city/tax payer money is being used to help fix these roads, FULL access should be allowed on them. (Full access meaning through traffic is allowed!) Keeping the gate CLOSED on the end is a joke.

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mamabear71

Jul-19-13 8:17 AM

I know it sounds like "favoritism." However; just keep an open mind for a minute. These people do pay HUGE property taxes, based on their home values. I wouldn't want the street in front of my million dollar home being a busy, shortcut either. Who cares? They DO pay "extra."

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NOURFB

Jul-19-13 8:17 AM

The residents of Wyndemere never wanted this to be a cut thru and bought their houses there with only one entrance, being 12th street. Later the back entrance was put in with the nderstanding there would be an additional gate. Wingate then sued Wyndemere to gain access to 12th street without a gate and Judge Bean in his infinite wisdom granted them a right of way thru a private neighboorhood. this is where the problem started. Now Wingate agrees to have the gate since they found out they would be responsible for the roads maintenance. what if Wyndemere decided to deannex from the city? Thousands of tax dollars would be lost by the city. The averave home in Wyndemere pays over $4,000.00 in Real Estate. Its a business decision by the Mayor...GREAT JOB Mayor Newell!

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DontLetThisHappen

Jul-19-13 8:07 AM

If the city users tax payers money for any of this project, than I think the gate should be closed and locked and no one should be allowed to use it(not even the residents of Wyndemere). I would almost bet that the gate and building are in the City of Parkersburg. Where is the line between Parkersburg and Vienna? One other thing... the city will be maintaining this private road for years to come (patching, snow removal etc.). They will have the best of both worlds and won't even have to pay to clear their road. Attend the council meeting and be heard! Lets hope the council knocks his proposal down.

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DontLetThisHappen

Jul-19-13 8:07 AM

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Sheznee

Jul-19-13 7:22 AM

Dear John Migliore, if you choose to keep the gate closed to through traffic then you should not get any assistance from the city. If you are "private" owners in a "private" community than you can pull out your own "private" money and pay for your own "private" road repair... The city is not responsible for any of your repairs! Your privacy is not of our concern. You should relish the idea of through traffic admiring your precious private homes as they pass by.

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DontLetThisHappen

Jul-19-13 7:14 AM

Be sure you read the 30+ comments on the other article, which came out in yesterday's paper. Scroll down..

I can't stress it anymore... Go to next Council Meeting. I and others will get up and talk to council.

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DontLetThisHappen

Jul-19-13 7:02 AM

The only way we can stop this is to attend the City Council meeting, which I believe is next week. Call the city and get date/time to verify. I don't care if this cost 10.00. It is not our responsibility to pave their road when it has no benefit to anyone else. They have a homeowners association and that is who needs to pay for it. I pay a big share of the city taxes, as well as City User fee (which is a bunch of bull) and I can't drive on that road. By the way, I hope those people at Wyndemere realize that after the road is paved (who ever paves it), your taxes will go up. I assure you and I will make sure that they are increased. I figure a lot of them are paying reduced taxes right now. PLEASE! You can't stop the mayor from spending our money unless you ATTEND THE COUNCIL MEETING. WE CAN STOP THIS!

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MisterT

Jul-19-13 5:49 AM

The same thing happened to the poor folks on Willow Lane. They went through every possible way to get the city to help them, and it finally took a lawsuit to get it resolved! I guess in this case MONEY talks!!!!!!!

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